{"id":1284,"date":"2017-09-03T17:36:01","date_gmt":"2017-09-03T15:36:01","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.enneagramme-marie.fr\/?p=1284\/"},"modified":"2017-09-03T18:25:40","modified_gmt":"2017-09-03T16:25:40","slug":"the-notion-of-the-savior-in-the-enneagram","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog.enneagramme-marie.fr\/en\/blog\/2017\/09\/03\/the-notion-of-the-savior-in-the-enneagram\/","title":{"rendered":"The notion of the Savior in the Enneagram"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/blog.enneagramme-marie.fr\/blog\/2017\/09\/03\/la-notion-du-sauveur-dans-lenneagramme\/ange-bleure-dame\/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-1281\"><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-1281\" src=\"http:\/\/blog.enneagramme-marie.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/09\/ange-bleure-dame.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"612\" height=\"769\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blog.enneagramme-marie.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/09\/ange-bleure-dame.jpg 764w, https:\/\/blog.enneagramme-marie.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/09\/ange-bleure-dame-239x300.jpg 239w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 612px) 100vw, 612px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><span id=\"result_box\" class=\"\" lang=\"en\"><span title=\"Dans toutes les \u00e9coles d'Enneagramme, une personne ayant une compulsion \u00e0 aider et \u00e0 sauver les \u00eatres, est syst\u00e9matiquement , et bien malencontreusement , class\u00e9e dans le type 2, ce qui est extr\u00eamement r\u00e9ducteur selon nos crit\u00e8res, et peu conforme \u00e0 la richesse inh\u00e9rente\">In all Enneagram schools, a person with a compulsion to help and save sentient beings is systematically, and quite unfortunately, classified in type 2, which is extremely reductive according to our criteria, and little in keeping with the inherent richness <\/span><span title=\"\u00e0 ce Mod\u00e8le et \u00e0 ses multiples facettes et subtilit\u00e9s \">to this Model and its many facets and subtleties<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span title=\"Combien de personnes, souvent des femmes se sont retrouv\u00e9es class\u00e9s dans ce type 2 alors que de toute \u00e9vidence, elles ne correspondent pas \u00e0 un type \u00e9motionnel, mais \u00e0 un type instinctif 1. \">How many people, often women, have been classified in this type 2 when they obviously do not correspond to an emotional type, but to an instinctive type.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span title=\"Ce type 1 que beaucoup de personnes boudent parce qu'il est d\u00e9crit essentiellement comme \u00e9tant celui du contr\u00f4le, , du ressentiment et du perfectionnisme, rec\u00e8le en son sein bien des tr\u00e9sors de vertus et de sagesse, comme celle de la g\u00e9n\u00e9rosit\u00e9, de l'\">This type 1, which many people dislike because it is described essentially as controlled, into resentment and excessive perfectionism, conceals in its midst many treasures of virtue and wisdom, such as that generosity, <\/span><span title=\"altruisme et de la bienveillance. \">altruism and benevolence.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span title=\"Notre travail sur les Anges de l'Ennegramme montre que le Type 1 Sexuel Mars Yin correspond \u00e0 l'Ange n\u00b0 2 nomm\u00e9 Jeliel, que la Tradition appelle \u00e9galement l'Ange Secourable.\">Our work on the Angels of the Ennegram shows that the Sexual Type 1 Mars Yin corresponds to the Angel No. 2 named Jeliel, whom Tradition also calls the Helping Angel. <\/span><span title=\"Les deux plan\u00e8tes qui lui sont d\u00e9volus, sont Neptune et Saturne, nous trouvons \u00e9galement les deux mots-cl\u00e9s : Amour et Sagesse pour cet Ange dont la compassion , l'empressement \u00e0 sauver et \u00e0 aider et l'engagement dans des causes altruistes est tout\">The two planets devolved to him are Neptune and Saturn, we also find the two key words: Love and Wisdom for this Angel whose compassion, willingness to save and help, and commitment to altruistic causes is all <\/span><span title=\"\u00e0 fait remarquable (voir la pianiste H\u00e9l\u00e8ne Grimaud qui \u00e0 20 ans \u00e0 peine a mont\u00e9 un Centre de Conservation des loups dans le Connecticut ) A ce propos, cet Ange est connu \u00e9galement pour son amour des animaux et pour les causes d\u00e9sesp\u00e9r\u00e9s. \">(see the pianist H\u00e9l\u00e8ne Grimaud who, just 20 years old, set up a Wolf Conservation Center in Connecticut). In this regard, this Angel is also known for his love of animals and for desperate causes.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span title=\"Pour illustrer mon petit propos de ce jour, voici cette belle histoire, trouv\u00e9 ce matin sur le Net : \">To illustrate my little talk of today, here is this beautiful story, found this morning on the Net:<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span title=\"\u00ab Quand j\u2019avais 13 ans, j\u2019ai pass\u00e9 un \u00e9t\u00e9 en colonie de vacances, et la plus jolie fille que j\u2019ai vue est venue vers moi et m\u2019a dit \u00ab Le noir te va bien \u00bb.\">&#8220;When I was 13, I spent a summer in a summer camp, and the prettiest girl I saw came to me and said,&#8221; Black is fine for you. &#8221; <\/span><span title=\"Je ne sais pas pourquoi elle a dit cela.\">I do not know why she said that. <\/span><span title=\"Nous avons discut\u00e9 et nous sommes devenus amis, nous avons \u00e9chang\u00e9 nos pseudonymes de messagerie instantan\u00e9e AOL et nous sommes rest\u00e9s en contact un bon moment.\">We chatted and we became friends, we exchanged our pseudonyms of instant messaging AOL and we stayed in touch for a while. <\/span><span title=\"\u00bb \">&#8220;<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span title=\"Kevin Walsh a ensuite expliqu\u00e9 qu\u2019ils se sont perdus de vue au moment du lyc\u00e9e, mais qu\u2019il ne se passait pas un jour sans qu\u2019il ne pense \u00e0 elle. \">Kevin Walsh then explained that they lost sight of themselves at the time of the high school, but that it did not happen one day without he thinks to her.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span title=\"\u00ab Aujourd\u2019hui encore, je ne peux pas expliquer pourquoi, mais une partie d\u2019elle restait avec moi.\">&#8220;Even today, I can not explain why, but part of her stayed with me. <\/span><span title=\"\u00bb \">&#8220;<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span title=\"Durant sa derni\u00e8re ann\u00e9e de lyc\u00e9e, Kevin Walsh a racont\u00e9 qu\u2019il avait travers\u00e9 \u00ab des probl\u00e8mes stupides de lyc\u00e9e \u00bb qui lui semblaient insurmontables \u00e0 l\u2019\u00e9poque et l\u2019ont fait sombrer dans une d\u00e9pression. \">During his last year of high school, Kevin Walsh recounted that he had gone through &#8220;stupid high school problems&#8221; that seemed insurmountable to him at the time and made him fall into a depression.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span title=\"\u00ab J\u2019ai alors d\u00e9cid\u00e9 de mettre fin \u00e0 ma vie \u00bb, a-t-il d\u00e9clar\u00e9.\">&#8220;I decided to end my life,&#8221; he said. <\/span><span title=\"\u00ab (J\u2019ai) \u00e9crit un mot et je suis all\u00e9 l\u00e0 o\u00f9 j\u2019avais pr\u00e9vu d\u2019en finir.\">&#8220;(I) wrote a word and I went where I planned to finish. <\/span><span title=\"\u00bb \">&#8220;<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span title=\"Environ 5 \u00e0 10 secondes avant qu\u2019il ne passe \u00e0 l\u2019acte, son t\u00e9l\u00e9phone s\u2019est mis \u00e0 sonner.\">About 5 to 10 seconds before he went to the act, his phone started ringing. <\/span><span title=\"Il a regard\u00e9 l\u2019identit\u00e9 de l\u2019appelant (il a dit qu\u2019il ne pouvait mourir sans le savoir), c\u2019\u00e9tait un num\u00e9ro qu\u2019il ne connaissait pas, il a r\u00e9pondu et c\u2019\u00e9tait elle. \">He looked at the caller&#8217;s identity (he said he could not die without knowing it), it was a number he did not know, he answered and it was her.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span title=\"\u00ab Je lui ai demand\u00e9 comment elle allait et elle m\u2019a r\u00e9pondu qu\u2019elle avait senti qu\u2019elle devait m\u2019appeler.\">&#8220;I asked her how she was going and she said she felt she had to call me. <\/span><span title=\"\u00c0 ce moment-l\u00e0, cela faisait un an que l\u2019on ne s\u2019\u00e9tait pas parl\u00e9, et elle a choisi cet instant pour m\u2019appeler.\">At that moment, it had been a year since we had not spoken, and she chose that moment to call me. <\/span><span title=\"Pour faire court, elle m\u2019a demand\u00e9 ce qui se passait, j\u2019ai crach\u00e9 le morceau et elle m\u2019a dissuad\u00e9 de le faire.\">To make it short, she asked me what was going on, I spat the piece and it dissuaded me from doing it. <\/span><span title=\"Elle m\u2019a v\u00e9ritablement dit \u00ab Quoi ?\">She truly told me &#8220;What? <\/span><span title=\"Ne fais pas \u00e7a.\">Do not do that. <\/span><span title=\"\u00bb Et c\u2019est tout.\">&#8221; And that&#8217;s all. <\/span><span title=\"\u00bb \">&#8220;<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span title=\"\u00ab Elle m\u2019a fait promettre de l\u2019appeler le lendemain, puis nous avons raccroch\u00e9.\">&#8220;She made me promise to call her the next day, and then we hung up. <\/span><span title=\"Cette nuit-l\u00e0, j\u2019ai commenc\u00e9 \u00e0 \u00e9crire les mots avec lesquels, dix ans plus tard, je l\u2019ai demand\u00e9e en mariage.\">That night, I began to write the words with which, ten years later, I asked her in marriage. <\/span><span title=\"\u00bb\">&#8220;<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/blog.enneagramme-marie.fr\/blog\/2017\/09\/03\/la-notion-du-sauveur-dans-lenneagramme\/kevin\/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-1280\"><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-1280\" src=\"http:\/\/blog.enneagramme-marie.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/09\/kevin.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"247\" height=\"336\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blog.enneagramme-marie.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/09\/kevin.jpg 247w, https:\/\/blog.enneagramme-marie.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/09\/kevin-221x300.jpg 221w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 247px) 100vw, 247px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>&nbsp; In all Enneagram schools, a person with a compulsion to help and save sentient beings is systematically, and quite unfortunately, classified in type 2, which is extremely reductive according to our criteria, and little in keeping with the inherent richness to this Model and its many facets and subtleties How many people, often women, [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":[],"categories":[107],"tags":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.enneagramme-marie.fr\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1284"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.enneagramme-marie.fr\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.enneagramme-marie.fr\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.enneagramme-marie.fr\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.enneagramme-marie.fr\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1284"}],"version-history":[{"count":3,"href":"https:\/\/blog.enneagramme-marie.fr\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1284\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1292,"href":"https:\/\/blog.enneagramme-marie.fr\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1284\/revisions\/1292"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.enneagramme-marie.fr\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1284"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.enneagramme-marie.fr\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1284"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.enneagramme-marie.fr\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1284"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}