{"id":1431,"date":"2017-09-24T21:21:27","date_gmt":"2017-09-24T19:21:27","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.enneagramme-marie.fr\/?p=1431"},"modified":"2017-09-24T21:39:05","modified_gmt":"2017-09-24T19:39:05","slug":"from-the-angel-rochel-to-proserpine-2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog.enneagramme-marie.fr\/en\/blog\/2017\/09\/24\/from-the-angel-rochel-to-proserpine-2\/","title":{"rendered":"From the  Angel Rochel to Proserpine (2)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/blog.enneagramme-marie.fr\/blog\/2017\/09\/24\/de-lange-rochel-a-proserpine-2\/le-retour-de-proserpine\/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-1421\"><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignnone  wp-image-1421\" src=\"http:\/\/blog.enneagramme-marie.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/09\/le-retour-de-proserpine.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"371\" height=\"511\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blog.enneagramme-marie.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/09\/le-retour-de-proserpine.jpg 581w, https:\/\/blog.enneagramme-marie.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/09\/le-retour-de-proserpine-218x300.jpg 218w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 371px) 100vw, 371px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\">The return of Proserpine<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\">Frederic Leighton<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span id=\"result_box\" class=\"\" lang=\"en\"><span title=\"Au sujet de Proserpine, voici un  court extrait d\u2019un article qui devrait paraitre prochainement.\n\n\">About Proserpine, here is a short excerpt of an article that should appear soon.<\/p>\n<p><\/span><span title=\"Cet extrait  vient compl\u00e9ter un pr\u00e9c\u00e9dent billet sur ce blog, consacr\u00e9 \u00e0 l\u2019Ange Rochel\n\n\">This excerpt completes a previous post on this blog, devoted to Angel Rochel<\/p>\n<p><\/span><span title=\"Le complexe de Proserpine\n\n\"><span style=\"color: #ff6600;\"><strong>The Proserpine Complex<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><\/span><span title=\"Les myst\u00e8res d\u2019Eleusis, principal et plus ancien culte de la religion grecque ont dur\u00e9 environ 2000 ans (- 1450 \u00e0 + 392).\">The mysteries of Eleusis, the main and oldest cult of the Greek religion, lasted about 2000 years (-1450 to + 392). <\/span><span title=\"Ils \u00e9taient \u00e9troitement connect\u00e9s au mythe de Demeter et Persephone.\n\n\">They were closely connected to the myth of Demeter and Persephone.<\/p>\n<p><\/span><span title=\"Le mythe refl\u00e8te la notion de transformation et la nature cyclique de la vie.\">The myth reflects the notion of transformation and the cyclical nature of life. <\/span><span title=\"L\u2019existence ne s\u2019arr\u00eate pas avec la mort parce qu\u2019il n\u2019y a pas de mort ;\">Existence does not stop with death because there is no death; <\/span><span title=\"Il y a seulement le changement d\u2019un \u00e9tat d\u2019\u00eatre \u00e0 un autre, symbolis\u00e9 par la d\u00e9composition de la graine dans la terre et sa r\u00e9apparition sous la forme d\u2019un \u00eatre vivant qui s\u2019\u00e9l\u00e8ve vers la lumi\u00e8re.\n\n\">There is only the change from one state of being to another, symbolized by the decomposition of the seed in the earth and its reappearance in the form of a living being which rises towards the light.<\/p>\n<p><\/span><span title=\"Ainsi les initiations aux myst\u00e8res d'Eleusis \u00e9taient probablement proches de ce que les survivants des exp\u00e9riences de mort imminente (EMI) rapportent ou ce qui est v\u00e9cu en th\u00e9rapie transpersonnelle, lors des s\u00e9ances de respiration holotropique (ce que le psychiatre Stanislav Grof a appel\u00e9 les\">Thus the initiations to the mysteries of Eleusis were probably close to what the survivors of the experiments of imminent death (EMI) report or what is experienced in transpersonal therapy, during the holotropic breathing sessions (what the psychiatrist Stanislav Grof called the <\/span><span title=\"matrices p\u00e9rinatales).\n\n\">perinatal matrices).<\/p>\n<p><\/span><span title=\"Il y a donc dans le complexe de Proserpine un fort besoin d'initiation spirituelle aux v\u00e9rit\u00e9s de la vie et de la mort, d'exploration en profondeur de la psych\u00e9 et de transformation compl\u00e8te et radicale de l'\u00eatre, sans compromis pour les mondanit\u00e9s\">There is, then, in the complex of Proserpine a strong need for spiritual initiation to the truths of life and death, of deep exploration of the psyche and of complete and radical transformation of being without compromise for worldliness <\/span><span title=\"et les visions superficielles de la r\u00e9alit\u00e9.\">and the superficial visions of reality. <\/span><span title=\"Ces personnes sont des chamanes, des gu\u00e9risseurs (gu\u00e9risseuses) spirituels, des m\u00e9diums.\">These people are shamans, spiritual healers, mediums. <\/span><span title=\"Ils pr\u00e9sentent une grande aptitude aux ph\u00e9nom\u00e8nes de transes, ils ont des visions et ils ont naturellement des pouvoirs psychiques -gu\u00e9rison, clairvoyance, t\u00e9l\u00e9pathie, \u2026\n\n\">They have a great aptitude for the phenomena of trance, they have visions and they naturally have psychic powers &#8211; healing, clairvoyance, telepathy, &#8230;<\/p>\n<p><\/span><span title=\"La dynamique de Proserpine au travers du mythe est centr\u00e9e autour de la fusion et la s\u00e9paration, la possession et l\u2019\u00e9mancipation, l\u2019ignorance et la connaissance.\n\n\">The dynamics of Proserpine through myth is centered around fusion and separation, possession and emancipation, ignorance and knowledge.<\/p>\n<p><\/span><span title=\"Dans la premi\u00e8re partie de sa vie l\u2019individu Proserpine est en fusion avec ou poss\u00e9d\u00e9 par un ou ses deux parents, et \u00e9ventuellement plus tard par un conjoint.\n\n\">In the first part of his life the Proserpine individual is in fusion with or possessed by one or both his parents, and possibly later by a spouse.<\/p>\n<p><\/span><span title=\"Elle est par trop gentille, incapable de dire non, du mal \u00e0 conna\u00eetre et faire respecter ses limites, victime, impuissante, pr\u00e9sente de la compassion, sensible aux besoins des autres, trop \u00e9motionnelle, du mal \u00e0 nommer ses \u00e9motions, imaginative, grand besoin\">She is too kind, unable to say no, hard to know and to respect her limits, victim, impotent, present of compassion, sensitive to the needs of others, too emotional, difficult to name emotions, imaginative, great need <\/span><span title=\"de se retirer, de s'isoler, enfant qui joue seul, sa sensibilit\u00e9 ne se conforme pas aux normes familiales, non orthodoxe, non conventionnelle, traumas dans l'enfance physiques ou psychiques, femme enfant inconsciente de son attractivit\u00e9 sexuelle.\n\n\">to withdraw, to isolate himself, a child who plays alone, his sensitivity does not conform to family norms, unorthodox, unconventional, traumas in childhood physical or psychic, woman child unaware of its sexual attractiveness.<\/p>\n<p><\/span><span title=\"Bien que le sujet ait des propensions au travail mystique, la spiritualit\u00e9 fait souvent irruption dans sa vie de fa\u00e7on soudaine voire brutale sous la forme d\u2019exp\u00e9riences mystiques, de la rencontre avec un partenaire ou un ma\u00eetre.\">Although the subject has propensities to mystical work, spirituality often bursts into life suddenly or even brutally in the form of mystical experiences, meeting with a partner or a master. <\/span><span title=\"Cela peut aussi \u00eatre \u00e0 la suite d\u2019une s\u00e9paration ou d\u2019un deuil.\n\n\">This can also be the result of separation or grief.<\/p>\n<p><\/span><span title=\"Cet \u00e9v\u00e8nement va initier la d\u00e9fusion, la s\u00e9paration d\u2019avec le milieu familial ce qui souvent entra\u00eene bien entendu des r\u00e9actions assez vives de la part de ceux qui exer\u00e7ait un pouvoir sur elle (\u00e0 l\u2019image de D\u00e9m\u00e9ter).\n\n\">This event will initiate the demerger, the separation from the family environment, which often leads to quite strong reactions from those who exercised a power over her (like Demeter).<\/p>\n<p><\/span><span title=\"A partir de ce moment le sujet Proserpine va d\u00e9marrer un processus de r\u00e9int\u00e9gration de son pouvoir int\u00e9rieur.\">From this moment the subject Proserpine will start a process of reintegration of his inner power. <\/span><span title=\"Elle devient capable de dire sa v\u00e9rit\u00e9 plut\u00f4t que de vouloir plaire aux autres, sait mettre des limites saines, sait prendre soin d'elle, a r\u00e9int\u00e9gr\u00e9 son masculin int\u00e9rieur, l'animus, ce qui signifie qu'elle a d\u00e9velopp\u00e9 sa nature affirm\u00e9e,\">She is able to tell her truth rather than wanting to please others, knows how to put healthy limits, knows how to take care of her, has reinstated her masculine interior, the animus, which means that she developed her affirmed nature, <\/span><span title=\"et active, la musique, la nature et les exp\u00e9riences mystiques la recharge, elle est mystique, visionnaire, connect\u00e9e avec les guides spirituels et les esprits, elle devient capable de guider les autres dans leurs mondes souterrains, avec beaucoup de finesse, de compassion,\">and active, music, nature and mystical experiences recharge it, it is mystical, visionary, connected with spiritual guides and minds, it becomes capable of guiding others in their subterranean worlds, with great finesse, compassion, <\/span><span title=\"d'intuition et de sagesse.\n\n\">of intuition and of wisdom.<\/p>\n<p><\/span><span title=\"Parfois et c\u2019est l\u2019autre aspect de la plan\u00e8te Proserpine, le sujet va s\u2019identifier \u00e0 Demeter, \u00e0 la m\u00e8re possessive, jalouse, vindicatrice et cruelle, qui r\u00e9gente et instrumentalise son entourage, son partenaire et ses enfants.\">Sometimes, and this is the other aspect of the Proserpine planet, the subject will identify with Demeter, the possessive, jealous, vindictive and cruel mother who regents and instrumentalises those around her, her partner and her children. <\/span><span title=\"Si ceux sur qui elle exerce son pouvoir tentent de s\u2019en d\u00e9faire, elle peut devenir tr\u00e8s dure ou faire du chantage \u00e9motionnel.\">If those on whom it exercises its power try to get rid of it, it can become very hard or emotionally blackmail. <\/span><span title=\"C'est d'ailleurs souvent \u00e0 ce moment qu'elle commence un processus de transformation o\u00f9 elle peut accepter que l'attention aimante envers ses proches va de pair avec une acceptation pleine et enti\u00e8re de la souffrance d'une s\u00e9paration qui t\u00f4t ou tard\">It is often at this point that she begins a process of transformation where she can accept that loving attention to her loved ones goes hand in hand with a full and complete acceptance of the suffering of a separation that sooner or later <\/span><span title=\"arrive.\n\n\">come.<\/p>\n<p><\/span><span title=\"Finalement Proserpine nous enseigne \u00e0 prendre conscience de l\u2019impermanence des ph\u00e9nom\u00e8nes et de la vie humaine en particuliers.\">Finally, Proserpine teaches us to become aware of the impermanence of phenomena and of human life in particular. <\/span><span title=\"Elle nous enseigne \u00e0 faire face \u00e0 la peur de la mort pour pouvoir faire le travail de croissance et de l\u00e2cher prise.\">It teaches us to face the fear of death in order to do the work of growth and let go. <\/span><span title=\"Voir au-del\u00e0 du miroitement captivant des apparences, transcender l\u2019attachement \u00e0 la possession pour r\u00e9aliser la non existence des ph\u00e9nom\u00e8nes et du Soi, tel est l\u2019enseignement ultime d\u00e9livr\u00e9 par Proserpine.\n\n\">To see beyond the captivating shimmering of appearances, to transcend the attachment to possession in order to realize the non-existence of phenomena and the Self, is the ultimate teaching delivered by Proserpine.<\/p>\n<p><\/span><span title=\"A suivre \u2026\">To be continued \u2026<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The return of Proserpine Frederic Leighton &nbsp; About Proserpine, here is a short excerpt of an article that should appear soon. 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